Rich, I am frustrated too.... but not with the quality of the photo. The lack of public knowledge on this issue, and sheer non-challant attitude about it frustates me.
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3 of 4 = 75% - Iranian Revolutionary Guard missle launch success rate 49 of 50 = 98% - Hoosier redneck firework launch success rate (and I was drinkin beer, it was in the dark, all of my supplies were imported from China, and cost under $100)
Hugo - you're hired for the blogger fireworks show for next year.
Wow, I was thinking the same! I actually talked with one of my graphics developers about it yesterday.
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If Iran hits Israel, i dont think they will be as humanitarian or nice as we are with Iraq/Afghanistan.
This assumes that the lower photo is real. Either one could have been digitally altered. Don't trust the media.
It goes to show you how many pictures that we see on TV is fake.
shady people. They don't want the world to know they suck
I do not think that the Iranian people that are responsible for the military and the advocates of jihad completely understand the power of the rest of the world. It is not even just a US predicament, as most would like to think. If Iran tried to strike another country, the world, and mainly the US, would stand up and squash them. Just because the United States is not successful at occupying Iraq, does not mean that the US could not fight a war, need be. The United States spends more on its military than almost all other countries combined. One US aircraft carrier and most assuredly one US naval fleet, has more missiles than in all of Iran, and probably one or two types of missiles, that, not that the United States would unnecessarily use them, could take out all of Iran. So I think the Iranian people need to take a look at their neighboring country from another light. The United States, more likely than not, would not be able to occupy Iran. Also, more likely than not, the United States would undoubtedly crush an Iranian uprising. Iran seems to be up and coming in the world. But, with great power, comes great responsibility. And if the Iranians would like to keep what decency remains, and a bright future in store, they should snap out of this mindless state they are in, and do something that ensures their place in this world instead of something that insures their lack of one.
If Iran hits Isreal ya'll will be drafted!!!!
I saw this as well... I don't really understand what the motivation behind adding the extra missle would be. Justification?
How do we know which is the altered photo?
Bad Photoshop skills.
Holy cow, MTfromLA! What's the matter with you? Eradicate? You're talking about an entire country of 70 million innocent people here! Shame on you. Besides, the US has invaded and destroyed Iran's neighbors on both sides - with all the threatening rhetoric on top of that, don't you think it's their right to defend themselves? It's a sovereign nation and an ancient civilization, not a little kid with a toy. Sheesh! You give us Americans a bad name.
Maybe we should be thinking about the three that did get launched not the one that failed.
Notice the smoke cloud on the ground under the missle furthest to the right and then check the smoke cloud under the second missle. They match perfectly.
LOL all news is altered to satisfy the masses, which is why i dont trust anything they broadcast on tv news anyway...
Irregardless of whether 1 didn't fire or not,the fact remains that they now have the capability to hit US forces and Israel.Ill bet if Obama was president he would want to hold their hands and sing Koombiya and forget that diplomacy doesn't work with madmen.
The question I have is who edited it and why. It was most likely not Iran trying to hide a failure or the original photo wouldn't have come out. Is this the work of the right-wing, defence contractor owned media sounding the drum-beats of war? It couldn't be the work of honest intentions because it doesn't represent the truth. While I applaud Rich's effort to point out the error, the damage is done.
The top one is clearly the fake! Just look at the dust formation on the far right of the two missles on the right. The right side of the dust formation is EXACTLY the same. The top one is definately BS! It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that the chances of getting the exact same dust formation are slim to none.
Anonymous, Re: >> This assumes that the lower photo is real. Either one could have been digitally altered. Don't trust the media. Anonymous, the point is the one they sent out is in fact fake. Look at the two plumes of smoke on the right two missiles. What do you think the chances are that two plumes match exactly in nature? The one second to the right did not launch or it launched and they chose to do a poor copy/paste over it for no reason. Which do you think it is?
There is always someone sitting somewhere trying to find the real truth. Whoever found the apparent digitally altered phone must have had alot of time in his hand to waste it looking for the mistake but it is will worth it.
Is it the same shots or are the pics taken at fast/burst shutter speeds. The upper photo it appears the missiles are at a slightly higher elevation while the lower photo indicates the supposed dud just hasn't lifted off yet? Note in the bottom photo the missiles seem to be at a lower altitude. The exhaust covers the launch vehicle?
Israel doesnt have a history of being very humanitarian with anyone Joe, except our politicians. When their tanks shoot 8 year old Palestinian children because they threw a pebble at it...I dont invision much of anything good coming from them.
This should remind the civillians how much posturing countries to do intimidate others. It can be most effective against civillian populations where media outlets are government censored. Also can be effectove where media outlets are sensationalism driven. Saddam postured his country into the 2nd Iraq conflict(War.) The Iranian government needs to be very careful as well as all countries who may feel threatened by the posturing. Does Iran have missiles? I believe so. Are there arrogant politicians and leaders? Yes, but not all. I just hope that the intelligent ones prevail.
Don't get sold by this news. I think Rich Shulman is just making a news for living. What was he doing at the fence! real taking photo's?
Regardless of how many missles misfire. It only takes one nuke to hit its target to be a success.
@anonymous The upper photo is obviously the fake. The sudden dissipation of the trail 3rd missile (from left) looks unnatural and inconsistent with the other trails. And the smoking gun - the left portion of the dark launcher cloud. It matches exactly the left portion of the 4th missile's launcher cloud. Some of the center of the cloud is cut-and-paste as well.
I noticed it when it came out. you can see they copied the second to the left missle, shortened the smoke trail, then it looks like they copied pieces of smoke for the bottom. The ground smoke was made into two parts from the ground smoke all the way to the right.
Wow! That's so amazing! I can't believe there is technology out there that can do that. What's next digital cartoon movies?
You can see that they clipped portions of the dust and smoke from the far right missile and pasted it in!!
The exhaust trails from the missles (even the 3 that are in both pictures) are slightly different too, so I agree... how do we know which one is altered. They could both be fakes for all we know... are we sure they really fired anything successfully?
In my opinion it would be better to see a photo of INCOMING on Iran rather than outgoing!
How do we know that the second photo isn't the photoshopped one? What's to say this isn't the dog wagging the tail here? I contend the second photo is the edited one. The unfired missle looks completely out of place. It's pretty obvious.
The 2 pictures are not the same pictures. In the top one, the missiles have been in the air longer, the smoke plumes are longer. Hmmmm....
as always the news and the US gov if we have one, has to make a big deal out of all the crap that Iran puts out. hell its there country if they want to shoot missles in it so what we do it all the time, let take care of our own country, and let others do the same,since WW11 we have lost way over 100,000 troops dead and ???? wounded playing cops, no other country has what the hell
What a lazy photoshop job. It just looks as though they cloned the propulsion cloud from the right and the actual missile and trail from the left and then blurred the trail slightly near the bottom to make it look slightly different. However poor the photoshop skill of the person who did this, no one can question the seriousness of the situation.
In the altered pic, you'll notice the front of the dust pile is the same on the third and fourth missile.
The one on the top is definately the altered photo. If you look at the exhaust smoke on the bottom right edege of the third missle its almost an exact match to the one on the fourth missle. You would think if they took the time to alter it... at least make it less obvious?
With due respect to anonymous: The top picture is definitely fake. Note the dust kicked up by the missile on the top launch photo. It is strikingly similar (i.e. identical) to the far right missile in the same photo. That seems a bit freakish - two identical clouds of dust occuring at exactly the same time on the same launch. I don't think so. I suppose it is possible for the bottom picture to be fake as well, but my money is on the top photo being the phoney. Cheers.
So your immediate assumption is that something failed? Because it wasn't "Made in China"?? I'm sure the Iranians invented the concept of doctoring pictures. Right - that's what happened.
I am frustrated too. on this same day, peace activist rallied to demand that We cease any and all sanctions against Iran. appeasement failed with Neville Chamberlain and Hitler and it will fail against state sponsored terrorism. How soon We forget that it was the radical extremist in Iran that held Us hostage for over 400 days
It wouldn't matter if one failed or not ... getting hit with three out of four nuclear-tipped missles wouldn't be any less of a disaster. Or just plain ol' conventional warheads. Would you care any more or less if you were punched in the face "only" three out of four times? I think not! ;)
Tne arrogance of some American people truly amazes me. Israel had a missile test a couple of week's ago. Why was it ok for them to do it but not for Iran. Why is it ok for Israel to have nuclear weapons but not Iran or any other middle eastern country? Iran is not bothering anyone yet the rhetoric from Washingon gets stronger everyday and let's not forget who drew first blood in Iraq. It was us, the USA. Take your lop-sided blinders off people.
It seems obviously phtoshopped to me, and I'm not a professional. Look at the color around the missles exhaust,it's a lighter shade of blue. My 12 year old son can photoshop better then that!
Ok, we all fail to see what really matters. Ok, we all fail to see what really matters. So they didn’t get one out of 4 off the ground. So what ? One carrying 2000 pound of explosives can level a city block. So there going Haif, maybe half of Manhattan from a cargo ship. But we only see the funny crap. So they doctored a picture, who cares their nerd are good. And three out of four are good too.
YOU MAKE A BIG DEAL OVER 1 MISSLE BEING DIGITALLY INSERTED INTO THE PHOTO. IS THE ONE THAT DIDN'T FIRE THE ONE THAT HAS THE CAPABILITY OF HITTING SOME OTHER COUNTRY AND STARTING A WAR? SO IT DIDN'T GO OFF, I GUESS ALL ARE SAFE NOW! BE REAL, 4 MISSLES OR 3 MISSLES WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE? IT IS STILL 3 TOO MANY!
I am surprised that the missles are not pointed down, if they launch a single missle at any country I believe we will know of Iran as and island in the Persian Gulf due to the number of missled already pointed at this country
Hugo, while I get the point you're making, do you or anyone else think that it matters to Israel if they only get hit with 3 out of every four missiles?
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I wish I could see the pictures bigger to compare... But it seems the top one is the altered one. The smoke trails on the second missile from the right have many similarities to the one to its left (i.e. second missile from left). And the dust cloud it left on the ground is very similar to the one on its right (i.e. rightmost missile)
No one happened to notice that the two pictures are completely different. They were taken at two different time points. So neither one is a fake of the other. The lower picture was taken a few moments before the top picture. You can tell this by the fact that all of the missiles have traveled farther in the top picture than the bottom picture. This is not to say that one of the pictures has been tampered with because I don't see how the missile in question could have traveled that far in relation to the other missiles if it launched after the lower picture, but before the top picture.
what are you trying to say 3 won't matter but 4 would. you need to get real 1 is to many
any ideas on what software they may have used? thanks
This is not the first time. Do you remember the "teddie bear" photos? These were a long standing habit of Arab photographers to place a teddie bear on anything related to American/Isreali war efforts/damage to play in American media. This was to show how evil the Americans were while enjoying the press freedoms they were dying to preserve. Rep. John Murtha fell for it big time. I am more worried about altered stories as well. Thank God for the internet and the destruction of mass media and it's lies. As for Iran the choice is clear. They belive the 12th mahdi will usher in world peace so the sooner they can bomb Isreal with a nuclear bomb the better. The only was to stop them is to kill them regardless of how politically incorrect or offensive to a liberal media. The question is when it will have to be done. patience is good but also stocking up on bombs, spare parts, bullets and fixing tanks is important as well. You don't want it but sometimes you have to.
As a novice in Photoshop, it is pretty easy to see (now that it was pointed out) that the sky in the background the exhause of the fake missle launch is lighter blue and the little rock formations and ground exhause under the 2 missles on the right are cloned. They are exaclty the same. There are 4 little puffs on smoke on the right side of the ground exhaust. I could do much better.
In all fairness to save face... if a missle fails, it fails, why try to cover it up?
is anyone surprised? trust me when i tell you, when it comes to our media, its not only pictures that are altered...
Why are the missle plumes different lengths from picture to picture??
Unless the altered picture showing 4 is from a different frame than the one showing 3 missiles, then more alteration was done than just adding a missile. Compare the smoke trails.
Its amazing what you can do with computers.
It's all about the price of oil. As long as Iran shakes it sabres, investors will be panicy and the prices will keep climbing... much to the benefit of Iran and the rest of opec.
You can tell the top picture is fake. The cloud of smoke the added missile makes is identical to the cloud on the right. The only exception is the bump where the trail from the missile meets the cloud. And if you look closely there, you can see a cut line on the left side of that bump (where it was evidentally cut/cropped)
@Dave "How do we know that the second photo isn't the photoshopped one?" Because the top photo depicts something unnatural and improbable. Two different clouds and missile trails so strikingly similar? Nah.
I believe we need to get all of the players in a room and get these problems taken care of before this whole thing gets out of hand. If you leave them out and talk with just a few, then you are going to upset the others and the fight goes on. If you act like they are not there or thier opinion doesn't matter, well looks what is happening with that idea. We might not like Iran but remember we were helping them at one time. I would say our foreign policy could be alot and i mean alot better than what it is right now.
This is a very common techniques used nowadays by big new media, including CNN, BBC, etc.
I don't know about us being particularly nice about Iraq or Afghanistan. I spent 11 months in Iraq as part of the so called Operation Iraqi Freedom and I know exactly what we are doing there...As for Iran hitting Israel: who cares? It's an illegal country anyway and it would be no justification to go to war for USA at all. Contrary to the prevailing views, Israel is not a part of USA.
So? 3 out of 4 is better than American "anti-missile" tests so far. http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E0DE2DF1738F932A25755C0A96F958260 And talking about fakes: http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0122-10.htm PS> To make it clear: I am AGAINST nuclear program of Iran.
MTfromLA, I work with many people who do not take Iran lightly. So don't get discouraged. Which presidential candidate has the most realistic approach to the irrational leaders in Iran will be a major factor in who I vote for this election year. GT
They can't put nukes on missles, especially that size missle. Those are small surface to surface or even large surface to air missles. When you see one the size of an Atlas booster then run.
Am I the only one that notices that the pictures are different altogether? Look at the smoke trails on all the missiles. They are different in each picture. So who knows who really to believe. They could be two totally different launches or Iran could've manipulated the images. Who knows?
If Israel would make peace instead of oppression, there would be no need for Iranian missiles. The missile test (show of force) was in response to Israel's air force exercise practicing to bomb Iran nuclear facilities (which Israel will do if they can't get Bush to do it for them).
Another reason to ignore media...
WOW.I can do a beter job on photoshop.The thing is its a government trying to hide a mistake,you think they would have done a better job then that.
How dumb do Ira-n-utjobs think the rest of the world is? A five year old can see the dup. dust clouds. You can see which countries have FREE PRESS and which don't.
Something does need to be done with Iran. We have given them too many chances, and time and time again they have disobeyed the UN. I would not be suprised if Isreal strikes Iran by the end of the year. If that happens, Iran will target all western nations. I will be ready to defend our great country.
heh. so the iranians fake their weapons systems testing -- just like uncle scam with its star wars boondoggle.
Not that it matters but, I once watched a documentary showing the same would happen to the US if we launched a missle attack. How's that song go? 2 out of 3 ain't bad? Just 1 with a nuke is all it would take. Bottom line is Iran proved thier point that they could launch an attack. I certainly hope everyone stays on thier toes to prevent Iran from taking this kind of action. It's sometimes hard to believe that these people love thier children.
ya its very pleasurful that iran have that kind of missiles to give lesson to US and Israil .the Amaerican killed others by the name of war against terror but they forgot that that they have to pay the its price at last. good Luck iran develope ur atamic bomb too
Well Iran seems hell bent on making an themselves appear to be stronger and smarter than they really are. Do they really think they could wipe Israel off the map? Are they really that dumb to think that a few missles will rattle the state of Israel into accepting a Nuclear Iran? All they have to do is look at the past to know that when it comes to military might you really don't want to strike Israel. But then again for the President of Iran to say the Holocaust didnt happen it kind of says it all. When the full might of the Israeli and American military is knocking on Irans door all I can say is they better turn off the lights and hide. I don't see how 4 little tiny missles really makes a difference but if Iran wants to be a part of the world they need to grow up and act like adults instead children. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is truly a first class idiot and Im glad I am in a country where I can speak my mind and not be killed for doing so.
I think that we should get our men and women out of Iraq and then two wipe both Iraq and Iran off the face of the planet. Here are two countries that think that the USA is too weak to do anything and we should show them and the rest of the world that the USA is still the super power country that we are---we need to stop all this humanitarian BS as they seem to have no remorse to kill---as a former Navy Seal with three tours in Iraq and Afganistan I say enough talk; take action and besides then we'll be giving gas away to our citizens!
You can see that the top photo is altered because postions of the added missile are exactly the same as other parts of the photo. Look at the backblast clouds at the far right and the second from the right. The missile itself is exactly the one to the left (second from left). It was a lazy alteration.
Please note that once again the photos are not the same and one of them is a lie, because the location of the third missile in the bottom is not the same location from which the missile in the top picture launched.
Maybe they don't have any missiles. Maybe the whole thing is a photoshop gag to tick off Isreal and the US.
If you look at the top picture it is pretty obvious that it was altered. There is a slight halo around it, a common side affect of using smudge tools to blend one graphic into another. Also, as others have noted, the third missile and smoke trail looks suspiciously similar to the forth missile. If you look at the position of the launcher for the third and forth missile you can see that the forth launcher is farther away, so the size of the forth missile in the sky should be slightly smaller when they are actually the same size. Those things of course are only minor give always compared to the very obvious halo around missile three. The top photo is very fake.
I'm not so sure that one was doctored. It appears more that the second was about 1 -2 seconds later which would have allowed the 4th missle to clear the silo. The photo's above are clearly not the exact photo as the rocket trails are different lengths as well. Also the rocket trails aren't an exact match either and if they were altered, you wouldn't have likely altered the trails in the subsequent pictures. I'll be the first to say that I think we see a lot of "photo shopped" images these days and can't trust what we see all the time, but I think the two above are slightly "differently timed" photo's from a multishot sequence....
I think both sides, U.S. and Iran, need to settle their differences and tone down their warmongering upon each other. I mean, you guys realize that Al Qaeda wants this, they dislike the United States and Shiites, and they are succeeding by having these both of us war with each other until we are both weakened.
did anyone else notice the subtle change in direction the missle to the far left has the supposed real picture has the missle and a less than straight up angle and the "fake" has it going in a straight line to the smoke.... i find this odd that only a missle was added and they call it fake goes to show you you can't trust which picture is actually real
Problem: Missle test of "superior weapon" failed. Solution: Photoshop it! Yeah, that's the ticket! No one will ever know. Given Ahmadinejad's penchant for exaggeration, I wonder why he didn't have them add 20 missles going up?
The first thing that I noticed is the difference in the sky surrounding the doctored image's failed rocket. Notice how it's a shade brighter. Second the right portion of the dust cloud is almost identical to the last rocket on the right.
Has it ever occurred to anyone that both pictures could be fakes??
Its funny how the US manipulates the world. has anyone thought that it is possable that the US changed the photo and not Iran. The way the US changes facts and lies all the time I think this is probely the true case of the picture
It Does not matter how many missiles they fired, the fact remains that they are trying to flex their war machine muscles in defience of the world sanctions, I think that Israel will strike in the near future with or without the approval of the USA or the rest of the world. Israel can not stand by While Iran Continues to Threaten to wipe them of the map.
Look at the color of the sky surrounding the missle trails. There is a sky discoloration around the missle trail of the suspected altered missle. This was the most likely give away.
Hi Rich, Your supplier, the Associated Press, keeps delivering to you propoganda from the Iranian News Agency, which you keep printing. When are you going to do your job, and write a story about your supplier. They are getting these photographs from someone, and they know who that person is. That person is supplying the AP with fake photographs, which the AP dutifully sends on to you, which you then publish, making you look like a schmuck. When is the story coming about how the AP keeps getting itself hoodwinked (or worse, knowingly distributing fake photographs), making NBC look like idiots? This is a story that you should be covering. You're not just a glorified picture chooser. You're the Associate Multimedia Editor for one of only 3 network news divisions. And the AP is using you to distribute Iran's propoganda photographs. Doesn't that irritate you just a little bit that they're making you look like a baffoon?
I think they are both dightly allterald. There's no way those pictures could be real.
You can tell the top photo is the altered one. The dust cloud under the missile in question is exactly the same dust cloud as the one immediately to the right of it. Additionally, the missile in question is exactly the same as the on to the left of it with some blurring of the bottom of the exhaust trail. I think my 5 year old can do that.
All I want to know is why Iran cannot have nuclear weapons? If Israel, India, Pakistan along with the other industrialized nations can have them, then why not Iran? Is it something to go to war on when we know it will cause Mutually Assured Destruction? With regards to irresponsible behavior being equated to Iran: the only country known to have used nuclear weapon on civilians is the US. Need I say anymore? Are you all blind in patriotism/arrogance and racism to not recognize your own follies? Who cares if the photo is doctored or not?
MRIVirginia- lol nuclear tipped missles?! They cant even enrich uranium yet.
Vedy intwesting, Rich. This would be a lot of work to clone, heal, or layer mask. First, you'd have to have a photo of a missle that was the correct distance and had the correct angle of launch, shot off at the same time of day to place there, and then spend umpteen hours fixing. Second,assuming this is a launch of a new weapon, where do you get a photo of a missle to place there? I can see one motivation for the alteration, if they did it, and that would be to hide the delivery vehicle. I'd love to have a look at the best possible, largest file of this and look for myself, but it is impossible with the resolution given; too much noise.
Remeber Iran does not have nukes, yes one of their missles will do damage, but i hate to think what will get thrown at them if the time ever comes. Send a couple stealth bombers, with the U.S. Navy 5th fleet and they will be picking up the pieces of Iran for along time.
Maybe they just launched 7 missles total so we'd all be online arguing about it.
There is no need to worry. Israel will launch an airstrike and take out the Iranian nuke base before it becomes operational. Then when the world will bitch but do nothing and life will continue.
How do we know that the top image isn't he real one and the one with the misfire is the fake one? Either way, Iran's must have a nice graphic arts college.
the altered photo is easy enought to identify. what are the chances that two missiles would have exactly the same pattern and contour of propulsion gases? it is simple to identify the "cloned" components that show the third missile firing.
I guess when all these guys are testing and posturing..they forget that Isreal has over 230 nuclear missles capable of hitting any target in Iran..they start something ..they are going to need a lot of sunblock...
Take a strait edge and line up the trajectory from one picture to the other. Why would they alter more than they had to instead of just putting in what was missing.I smell media bull.
MRIVirginia, The goal of launching multiple missiles is not to hit a single target. You are launching the missiles at specific targeting goals. The idea is to take out essential services depending on your intent. Also, right now, they do not have nuclear warheads, so you are not discussing catastrophic loss of metropolitan areas (cities) all at once. Missile launches like this would be done in order to take out targets with services such as power, communications, military planning and command, etc. In order to be successful against a country such as Israel, you would NEED to insure that you take out all services at once with the highest degree of success possible. Also remember, you will lose several of these missles due to Patriot Anti-Missile systems, etc. and that launch failures are simply not acceptable. You could very easily be looking at a 0% - 25% success rate. Leaving airfields (with heavily armed aircraft), missile silos, military HQs, etc fully operational for a complete retaliation. So...1 missile not firing can make a huge difference.
They don't even appear to be the same image if you study it. They look like to unaltered photos.
As implied earlier, both may have been altered, but is blatantly obvious that the one with four missiles firing is a fake. Check out the smoke/debris pattern beneath the two missiles to the right. There's virtually no chance the shapes could be so similar. See the little goosehead shape with the three rolls of smoke in front. It's obvious that portion was simply lifted and pasted. Other features were obviously copied from the three missile photo also. But, of course, if those folks have even one missile that works then many should be concerned.
As i have worked with many different aspects of Photo's for web sites and backgrounds, any body age five and above could tell the top photo is fake, they used the clone tool to copy over the extra missle in the center, from the one on the fare right (Smoke and Dust). The missle trail comes from the missle on the left of it. LoL, besides faking it, it is still a big concern, but nothing a little bigger missle would not take care of is needed.
They could both be altered for all we know. The US intelligence already said that they can only confirm appx 7 missiles were launched and Iran says it launched 9. So, there ya go. Iran is askin' for it. Just look at any country that has taunted or struck Israel (or the US for that matter) in the past. They don't really come out ahead, if you catch my drift. I'm surprised Israel hasn't already taken care of the sitch. It's only a matter of time, folks!
Yes, the top one is obviously altered. But by whom? How do we know this was the photo released by the the Iranian officials? This obvious alteration is embarrassing to them. Would they be so stupid? We can't assume anything in this game.
Get ready for all digital TV. Whats real or altered at-will is going to depend on the spin corporate media wants to put on it. Don't be suprised with the news media and there technical ability to change reality for millions of TV viewers when its all digital.
take a closer look at the smoke trails under all the missils in the top picture then try to match them with the missiles in the bottom picture. none of them match this may therefor be 2 different pictures if the launch site and the target where the same then the missils angle of fire would look the same and these pictures could have been taken days apart.
Food for thought: One failed missile isn't going to change the fact that three did fire successfully. Even if only one missile had fired successfully, that one missile is just as much a threat as if all four had fired successfully.
Upon close examination, it appears that the bottom photo (failed launch) has been edited, not the top photo(successful launch)!!! On the bottom photo, zoom in and examine the left side of the exhaust pattern for far right missile. Since when does exhaust disburse in perfectly vertical pattern? It doesn't! Additionally, the color variation and pixilation has very little change. Exhaust (smoke) trails are variable and will gradually disperse. If you look at the same exhaust pattern on the top photo, you will see a more natural dispersion.
What Iran's mullahs fail to take into account is that they are not threatening a country unable to fight back. when the first missile is launched against Israel, (assuming the Iranians are STUPID enough to launch one, the reply will wipe out Terhan and surrounding cities. Israel not only has a nuclear stockpile, but also the delivery systems. For the Iranians to assume there will be no retaliation is idiotic. But then, the mullahs are not noted for logical thinking. Israel will suffer but the muslims will wind up as nothing more than a footnote in history books. When your enemies preach genocide you have nothing to lose by destroying them.
What's the big deal? These missiles are not nuke capable. They are just an marginally improved version of Iraq's SCUDs. The accuracy of these missiles is so bad, they would be lucky to land somewhere in the same country as their intended target. Israel is knee-deep in Patriot and Arrow anti-missile defense systems. Did anybody ever stop to think that maybe Iran is arming up for good reason? There are two lunatic Cowboys in the White House, who threaten them every day. I would be trying to protect myself too, if I were them.
Let's get this battle over with while we are still vastly superior to these radicals who are determined to attack and destroy Israel. Once Israel is gone...Europe. Next... the good ole U.S.A. One small nuke on Tehran should tell the world (Islamic radicals and other anti-U.S.A. countries) that this country is determined to stop the proliferation of nuclear weapons...by whatever means.
Both photos were altered. In fact, the only real missile is the one sitting on the truck in the second picture.
Folks, I'm with some of you here. Who gives a flip about the picture, and if it was 3 or 4. Let's look at the PRIMARY problem here. They TEST FIRED MISSILES.
with it easy to alter photos,what make you think that the police or FBI doesnt alter photos to get a convection, or make the jury think your guilty when you not???????
I've noticed that these missiles, as with the ones earlier this week, have not yet been referred to as being nuclear or even potentially nuclear. But in this blog, many give the assumption that that are. Don't give our Prez another misconception to run with...
I don't think we have to worry about Iran launching nukes. They are ignorant, egotistical morons (the leaders anyway), but they know that if they nuked someone...anyone, really, but especially Israel...the retaliation from the US (not to mention the rest of the world) would flat out end their existance as a people. In that instance, we wouldn't be held back by the restraints of politics the way we are in Iraq and Afghanistan. Where the REAL threat lies is in the fact that Iran would likely be open to selling a dirty nuke to a terrorist organization.
Looks like an Iranian "Show of Farce" to me. I wonder if the Iranian press agent who altered this photo still has arms.
The text of "to cover up a failed missle launch" doesn't make sense. I bad at math.. but the originally release photos had 4 missiles. They actually only launched 3 missiles. If they only launched 3 and one failed, shouldn't they have erased the doctored picture to 2?
This photo blog is a prime example of how the government subtly introduces war against Iran into the psyche of the American people. Beware that the US is already broke and cannot fight another war with foreign money. At that point the oil stops flowing and could quickly become a major world war. Remember that Einstein said WW4 would be fought with sticks and stones.
How is it that the whole world is going to go hell just so that Israel can have atomic bombs and no one else in the Middle East? We need to amend the Constitution to clearly define what an American president can and cannot do when it comes to our foreign policy. As it is now, a president can wreck havoc on the world without fear of being held accountable. Now we have the Imperial President in George Bush who is telling us we need to change our laws/Constitution (surrender our rights) to combat terrorism. Our current foreign policy allows Bush to incite wars by siding with rouge coutries like Israel, and then we have to foot the bill and take the hits (9/11 - more than 4,000 death in Iraq) while Israel sits pretty and our military industrial complex fuels the fire while making big profits. We need a law that will prevent rouge presidents from picking out one country over the rest of the world by giving it special treatment. We need a workable "Prime Directive" that our presidents can follow that is based on technology and food assistance and not on arms, munitions and deception. Our government peddles death. As it is now, the world is the mercy of whatever foreign special interest (American Israel Public Affairs Committee) that helps to elect our presidents. This war on terror we're fighting is the direct result of a mis-guided foreign policy.
Tyler, Your statement that the top photo is a fake is why this story is here. You are brilliant.
i am so sick of US turning blind eye to Israel's action. C'mon, Israel has occupied Palestine and now they even splitted and barricated the whole palestinians. I have to say this brings back the memory of how ruthless Nazis did to Jews back then. Palestinians feel the same way like Jews did back then. So Iran attacks Israel and US helps Israel, again blindly. What happens, we make more enemy, we pay more for gas, which is ridiculously high already and Americans are suffering!!!! There are lots of Americans who are poor or barely able to feed their family. We are more concerned about our very day to day existence than worrying about some other nation, ill mannered nation, out there some where in desert. Will the US govt seek permission from its citizen to go to war! No but still citizens have to pay the price. There is nothing to gain for the US Citizens from all this killings except lose. Amen
Why don't we show them how our missles land (Unretouched? right up close.
Notice that the exhaust plumes on both the right and left missles are identical too!
WELL WELL WELL HERE WE GO ONE MORE TIME.THE PICS ARE GOOD BUT NOT THAT GOOD. THE US SHOULD JUST DO WHAT IT DOSE BEST. KILL THEM
Has anyone noticed that the dirt mounds in front of the 2nd picture? The mound in the middle is completely missing in the top picture. The position of the first rocket seems to be off as well in the top picture. The launch clouds are identical in both pictures, but the rocket positions and the flames/exhaust are not.
I call Jihad on their graphic design department! If you look really close there's a dude in the truck giving the finger to the camera. They probably just didn't want to give that goof-off any reason to do those shenanigans again.
Wow--101 comments popped up real quick on this one. My thoughts: It's gonna get WAY ugly over there pretty soon.
World know how the media manipulate things around, neither Iran nor the media can be trusted.Even if it has been fabricated by Iran they must have learned from USA (Remeber US manipulated and presented evidence of so called weapons of mass destruction sites and movements to get UN approval to attack Iraq). Nevertheless, does three or four really matter when one is good enough to do the right job ?
Both images have been altered. The left missile in the LOWER photo is a duplicate of the rightmost missile. Notice the "hook" of smoke near the ground. They duped it and rotated it so the trajectory looks slightly different. So, it looks like they only got two to launch.
All I have to say is do any of you really care if the picture is a fake or not. I really do not care if Iran get a nuclear missile, That is everyone;s concern, no? No one is stupid or crazy enough to launch a nuclear weapon, not with the US having so many of them. Remember the us can blanket any country 10 times over if they so wish it.
I think you all missed a point,in the lower picture the missile launcher is a good distance AHEAD of the other 3 whilst in the upper picture they have all fired IN LINE .
I think we should turn Iraq and Iran into a glass plant if you get my drift. As far as Iran and the missiles it seems the more ability you have to launch an attack the more we offer to give you, look at North Korea as far as the threats they made and look what we offered them while we have our own people starving here in our own streets. I see NO REASON not to blow Iran off the face of the earth and take over their oil fields for our use, maybe it will send a warning to the rest of the world not to keep making threats they can't back up.
the give away is the top picture. the blending on it stinks. why is the sky behind the third missle trail a lighter color? when you cut and paste you must then blend -- somebody missed that one. Also, Notice the rock/mud under the third missle and the 4th. The "peaks" under the 3rd is exact to the 4th.. cut and paste on your own and you will see the tops align perfectly
It does not surprise me that Iran doctored their photos;however,it proves that these clowns are a real danger to world peace.The Persians failed to learn their lesson with the Sparatans and the Greeks. They need to take a chill pill and RELAX.
This is typical propaganda. Iran is flexing for one reason, to attempt to bump our oil prices up again. They are trying to maintain their profits to fill their war coffers.
Obama already has the kumbayah plan at the ready. he has already made plans to invite amendinjan and hamas for a cookout and after dinner campfire. Seriously folks people have NO idea of the threat this poses to our own peace even tho it is on the other side of the world. Bush and Mccain are right on this and have a solid background and methodology to dealing with these power hungry dictators and totalitarian societies who pretend democracy. obama has already shown his naivete by suggesting the kumbayah session should take place. people who would alter a picture in order to cover up a 25% failure really demonstrate themselves to be quite insecure about their image and are in fact afraid of what may happen. obama queches this fear despite the fact that to manufacture this and use it as a diplomatic tool takes years. this naive candidate does not understand the basic principles of international diplomacy and negotiation.
I CAN PROVE THAT THE BOTTOM PHOTO IS DEFINATELY A FAKE. IF EVERYONE LOOKED CROTICALLY THEY WOULD REALIZE THE POSITIONS OF THE 3 MISSILES ARE EXACTLY THE SAME WHILE THE FOURTH MISSILE IS WAY FORWARD. IT IS NOT ON THE SAME LINE OF FIRE AS THE OTHER 3 MISSILES. NOW I ASK WHY WOULD SOMEONE INTENDING TO EXPLODE ALL 4 MISSILES PUT 3 ON THE SAME LINE OF FIRE AND ONE ON A DIFFERENT POSITION?. YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE THAT THE UNEXPLODED MISSILE WAS ADDED IN THE PICTURE AND IS WAY AHEAD OF THE OTHER MISSILES AFTER ONE OF THE MISSILES WAS ERASED OUT OF THE PICTURE.
DianaRantoulIL.. The photo's editing is extremely obvious. Look how sparse the smoke on the third missile is. Do any of the other missiles have smoke plume bases so sparse? No. Look at the top of the little dirt mount underneath the rightmost missile. Now look at the third from left missile in the doctored photo. Look below it... look familiar? That dirt mound is present in the doctored photo but not in the origial. Did someone do landscaping in the sheer seconds before the missile launched? Look at the sky around the third missile in the doctored photo. It's a lighter blue than all the surrounding sky. This photo is 1,000% doctored. To say it isn't is sheer stupidity. Moreover, missiles fly FAST. Even if the photos were taken MILISECONDS apart, there's no way the "third missile" would have travelled so far while the others didn't move hardly at all. You are wrong. It's doctored.
What's really interesting is that both photos are different. You must look carefully back and forth to see it. I work with PS everyday and I see 2 different pictures.
It's obvious that the top photo was altered. My 12 year old daughter could notice this. The missile trail in the 3rd rocket was copied and pasted from the 2nd and 4th rocket, as well as the plume of smoke at the base. The 3rd one obviously failed and they didn't want to look stupid to the rest of the world. But they look even more unintelligent with this lousy attempt to cover it up.
HugoG: I would think that strappi ng a bomb to yourself and then detonating it YOURSELF is also stupid yet this culture promotes it. How about strapping a NUke to yourself and then detonating it? only the next step for these MORONS(oh moron does indicate a certain lack of inherent intelligence) in other words are they stupid enough? are they capable of launching nukes without regards to the consequences? I think you know the answer.
All...there's no doubt that the pictures are altered...we have other ways of counting launches believe me. And yes, while the Iranian rhetoric about the launches is rediculous, they have the freedom to launch inside their own country as much as we do. They didn't detonate a nuke, (nor hopefully will they ever)...they were just demonstrating their capabilities to launch as we've been doing to show we can shoot them down.
Personally, I think we should let the Iranians alone, as long as we make one thing perfectly clear to them. Simply make them understand that they can do whatever they want inside their own borders, but if they cross that line in any way, there will be consequences... Can you say "Sea of glass"????
Photoshop in Iran I wonder if it's a legit copy???? We might be sharing the serial number!!!!!
Anyone who believes Iran is out to destroy Israel or the US is a fool. The president can't make any decisions without the approval of the council, and to make that kind of attack is pure suicide. Does anyone really believe Iran is out to commit suicide? The US rhetoric is just that. Foolish statements designed to scare people into thinking the attack on Israel is inevitable, so as to perpetuate bloated military contracts we can't afford. Every dime of this fiasco in Iraq was borrowed from China. Iran has every right to defend itself, just as the US claims the right to do the same. What would you do if an imperialistic government such as ours surrounded you with ships, planes, missiles, nuclear weapons, and thousands of troops? It's completely idiotic to think they wouldn't try to defend itself. BTW, Iran hasn't invaded or attacked another country in over 200 years. How many has the US illegally invaded, attacked and destroyed in the same period? Over 100.
I find both the US posturing of "all options are on the table" and Iran's threats of "we have dug graves for every American soldier" rather ridiculous. Amusingly, they seem to only affect a bunch of oil speculators who are making money off these hollow threats.
The image is so obvious manipulated. Any one experienced with PS can see the action of Clone Stamp. In the lower part of the images the clouds of the second missile are identical with the first one on the right. Obvious the designer was in the high pressure to get the job out fast.
The US altered images and intellegence to get us into a never ending war. So, Iran is just doing excatly what our government has been doing for a long time.
Does Iran really understand what the US and Israel could do to their country? Not trying to be "overly proud" of my country when it comes to flexing our muscle...however, these country's do alot of talking! And when it boils down to it they absolutely cannot hold a candle to the military might of the US, much less when backed by Israel (who by the way has the world's best Air Force next to the US). I am not sure who they think they are fooling, but its just ridiculous talk. The rest of the educated world realizes the consequences of Iran's actions...
Look like a top missles land.
If you look at the bottom photo the misfired missile was on the back of a truck. Just on the other side of the truck to the left you will see another vehicle, red. Now look at the top photo the vehicles are gone and it appears a third missile was fired. Also on the top photo compare the smoke from the blasts the formations on the bottom left and far right have not changed. Smoke doesn' stand still. Looks like a cut & paste to me. The vehicles could not have moved out of the way that fast.
HELLO IRAN its a matter of time before Israel puts your threats to sleep for good.
RosalynMD; In regards to first blood, (this is why it is important for everyone to remember history. For if we do not learn from it we are doomed to repeat it). Fact: Iraq was first to draw blood on the people of Kawait. The goverment of Kawait and Saudia Arabia asked the UN for help. The UN secerity counsel agreed and pulled the USA and the EU into a small war now known as the Gulf War. It was a short conflict and the then President Bush, maintained restraint and only destroyed a part of Iraq's offensive capability. Iraq quickly ended its attacks on the Allied forces and was held to defunked end of hostilities treaty (such as Germany and Japan was after WWII). However unlike Germany and Japan who followed the rules of the treaty, Iraq continued to push and taunt Allied forces. ie. firing missles at Allied aircraft targeting Allied aircraft with radar. Any of which made the hostility treaty nil and void. Giving the US the right to continue it's offensive attacks on Iraq. I do however feel that the use of WMDs as the reason to resume the conflict with Iraq as a repugnant lie to the American people as well as the those of the world. But I digress it was Iraq who drew first blood.
Did you look at the truck that the missle didnt go off? The guy in there is white and eating a big mac
Jane another bleeding heart liberal. while I agree that innocent people might be killed I know of no magic weapon that can change guns into flowers. Perhaps you have been on the same trip that Daryl hanha has been on... siging the song why cant we be friends.. tell that to the zealots who destroyed the World Trade Center... Oh yea, those werent innocent people or where they?
That part of the world has fought long before the "New World" was discovered and will continue to do so - no matter who is in charge here. It simply boosts their egos to show a totally successful launch thus we get an altered photo. Russia did the same thing for years by never letting us know if a rocket did not launch.
The top photo was clearly manipulated. Look at the smoke plume on the far right missle and the smoke plume on the photoshopped missle. See anything funny? Besides that they are the same smoke plume? How about the blending of the sky around the missle?
What? Fake? No...Of course not. And there are no gays in Iran either...
The launcher in the 3 missile pic is edited out in the 4 missile pic. The smoke from the launch is in a different position from the launch smoke. it does seem to be altered. What a JOKE!
Who says that EITHER photo is real? Were any of us there when they were launched? Were these even launched in Iran? We dont even know how old the photos are. We cant even trust OUR media in America but we are quick to give credibility to Iran to say that ONE of these photos IS REAL when we know at least one of them is fake! We already occupy Countries surrounding Iran and if we(USA) start a war with a country that DOES NOT have neuclear weapons(IRAQ) then what makes the people of Iran believe we may not do the same to them unless they show some might? How would we feel right now if Iran or any other middle eastern nation occupied Canada AND Mexico simply because they felt it necessary? We probably would not like it and depending on the agressive nature, we might not even waste the time to show that we have neuclear capabilities. We might just jump right in!
I'd say you have another problem with the photo. Looking at the top photo, the first missile on the left side of the top photo is closer to the plume of the 2nd missile to the left. When compared to the bottom photo,
