Doctor: "Hey Kid, once you're done here, we got some Rosie O'Donnel tapes for you to watch." Kid: "Nooooooooooo!!!"
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I'd be afraid to know what exactly caused the steam coming from that manhole. The steam that comes from the manholes I'm familiar with, isn't exactly pleasant. (and incase you were wondering, that was a very much "pun intended" comment)
Hmmm, this photo really does have an interesting draw to it. Every time i look towards the edges, i get pulled back to the man in the middle. Is he using the bags as pillows?
Hmmm... I'm not a photographer, except taking shots with a disposable camera. But, I had to giggle at Mish's comment - sorry Mish - but kept thinking each time I read it, which was at least a couple of times, that, yep... that's a complete picture alright. Yep... everything is in it that was meant to be by the photographer!!! Yep, it looks layered to me, too!! (A bit of sarcasm there... for I know not what I see! Can you tell I am not a professional photog? LOL! Okay, now waiting for the bashing...)
I'm not seeing the texture so much as the human being I thought (at first glance) was a pile of refuge being swept up. I am humbled and thankful that this holiday season I & my family have all that we need in this world. Food, shelter and clothing. (The evil side of me is also thankful for the red shoes)
This photo really makes you study what is happening. You need to look closely at he center object to determine what this object is covered up. Once there your emotions go wild. What is his story? How did he get there? Everyone has a story to tell? How do I stay out of that place?
Sorry. They added my comments here instead of the previous photo.
I find it a little disturbing that there is so much humor derived from a homeless person who is forced to sleep in this conditions....not unlike many here in our own country....do you find that funny as well. I don't.
The homeless man will be grateful he was an excellent subject being able to contribute to the quality of the photo Mish.
Kevin: Your comment would have been even funnier on the previous photo! :)
How sad that this photographer has no sympathy for the homeless man. Of course there are different layers to this photo. All photos have them.
Good grief - the whining has started already. My kids don't even whine this much.
The guy has to be one of the alpha dogs of the homeless in order to stake a claim to the prime real estate of a warm manhole.
Either I just popped in from a alternate dimension this site and its viewers are BUZZED ON SOMA!! Nope, I DON"T get it and quite happy to say so!! Maybe the TAO can make sense out of it......Slart
SouthernLady...Kevin..Too much eggnog?
I used to feel sorry for myself remembering the near 6 months I was homeless and had to live out of my tiny car. Now I'm very thankful that I had the car. You can really never tell about homeless people. I am a college graduate, a mother of four grown children and nearly 50 years old at the time of my homelessness. I was estranged from no member of my family and yet I found myself in this situation. Perhaps the individual in the photo has a similar story. The caption says it's a man, but you can't really tell from the photo. It could be anyone reduced to this situation by any number of circumstances.
ok teh steam in teh long run would definately hurt you not help you....You would sweat then freeze again
We could cut world hunger in half if we took all the starving people in Asia and fed them to the starving people in Africa. With a little sauce it's kind of like buffalo wings. It's just a shame that no one cares enough to help us halve the have-nots but that's just how insensitive this world has gotten.
It is so say that Mish feels like a homeless man sleeping near a steaming manhole in the company of trash gives her a feeling a layered texture. How insensitive. Human life is not an art. I have compassion for the man and wish that there was something I could do for this man. This is no joke, it is serious. How would you feel if it were you. I am offended at your remarks.
I like this picture alot. Very emotional content. The addition of the refuse sweeper was a very nice touch. I'm surprised anyone was allowed to photograph a homeless person in the "Workers Paradise".
Mish, how can anyone "like" a photo of human suffering?
Phil Your remark ran a bell. See: A Modest Proposal Jonathan Swift's satirical essay from 1729, where he suggests that the Irish eat their own children.
earl... not enuf! LOL! I ran out of whiskey... Sorry if I offended anybody here, with my "insensitive" comment. I guess I should have focused on the homeless man more, rather than commenting on the picture! Shame on me! Seriously, I do feel compassion for any individual who is in this situation! I thank God I and my family are comfortable.
WOW! No comment from bayaga yet? Amazing. I wonder what we'll learn from her next!!
I don't know about China, but in America, poverty is elective.
Fortuitous placement of broom end makes it appear to be steaming/smoking. This scene is also commonplace in Northern latitudes of US, thanks to a health policy that turns its back on, rather than assists, the mentally ill. Better to funnel the money to the already-too-filthy rich.
How truley sad that someone could poke fun at this picture. Did you not see that the person does not have any shoes on and at this point in his life is willing to do anything to keep warm? Do we even know why he is homeless? I mean really, I wonder if it would be as funny if one of you were walking down the street in the states and seen it with your own eyes, would you laugh and wisper behind while you walked away to a hot lunch, or offer him a meal and an hour to sit somewhere warm without the stench that comes from a manhole cover? Amazing.
Ah, the college days...
Lunchbox: According to PBS, 70-95 percent of homeless in this country are mentally ill or substance abusers or both. I don't think mental illness is "elective". Well ... in my brother's case, I guess it is!
Lunchbox is right in that the homeless have a place to stay. Here in Ohio, when the temperature gets down to about 10 degrees, the homeless start checking into the shelters. It's just a bed and a meal but it's warm. Then, when the temperature gets back up to about 30 degrees, the homeless begin leaving. I don't know why the experience is so unpleasant, but they prefer to sleep on the streets.
Ed, I was thinking, wouldn't the world be a better place if only people would open their hearts to Margaret Sanger opening franchises of her eugenics clinics in those global neighborhoods that need her most? She could extend the gentle hand of Darwin's love to those in need, but we all need to join hands together as taxpayers to help subsidize her kampf... but you know, I doubt that most of the bleeding hearts have enough knowledge of history to understand the reference or enough sense of satire to get the point. Homelessness in America is largely a consequence of the Reagan legacy. It appalls me that he is lionized in retrospect and people fondly remember his escalating stock market driven by gamblers with mad cow disease. But the key Reagan decision for me was his cutting of funds for mental institutions, effectively putting all those patients on the streets. Before Reagan we mostly had hobos. After Reagan we had the homeless. Alzheimers was a gift that prevented him from remembering the part of his legacy that extends beyond Wall Street, the part that touches the lives of the rest of us. As for the photographer, the votes are in and he's only allowed to snap as many homeless people as he has sandwiches to give them.
Lunchbox--That's what I believed, too, until it happened to me. I also thought that having an education would make it easier to find work. That's not always the case. I ultimately had to leave the education information off of applications to find a job which started at $4.75 an hour, in 1994. I stayed at that job until I was able to land a better one--in 1999! While employed at this place, I cut off one finger and mangled a couple more in an accident involving a table saw. So, you see, it wasn't my pride that kept me from working. It wasn't being afraid of work. It wasn't a lack of intellige(my G.P.A. at graduation was 3.55 and I did that while raising my children). Some people simply find themselves in this predicament. I honestly hope that you, Lunchbox, can believe for the rest of your life that poverty is "elective" in America; because that will mean that you never find yourself homeless.
The presence of the broom is what makes this a great illustration of the human condition. It suggests both the level in life that a human being can be reduced to, and yet understanding in that it is captured in the graceful act of sweeping around the man. We can tend to our built environment only so much before we have to ask ourselves, to what end?
I someone took this to capture a moment, what was their intention to begin with? hat is your interpretation? Real artwork is thought proviking, but it doesn't necessarily make a statement...The artist has obviouisly provoked some thought...I'm still thinking.....hhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmm I perceive this to be a picture that someone took impulsively because the moment was right, but they forgot about respect and dignity...The person just wasn't thinking or may has difficulty reading social situations, but it is not their fault. It's no ones fault.It just is what it is..it is a genuine peice of ART!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This photo makes me feel sorry for the homeless person. I have a sibling that deals with the homeless and it's pretty sad to find out about their origins and how they became homeless.
HMM? The chinese are even taking our homeless jobs.
Tony..I thought it was 70-95 percent of ALL people in this country (lol)
CMreno, no one is "forced" to be in the situation. His present circumstances may not allow for anything else, but to say he was forced is just not true. Your decisions throughout life put you in the situations that you are ultimataly in. Sure you can't go back and change what is already done, but everyone is given the oppurtunity to work through whatever struggles and make the right decisions.
Been in that situation before, Not surprised at the jokes. people can be cruel. Not happy memeries
I'll loan him my manhole hook heater and TV. He could get nice and comfortable inside.
The insensitivity here is appalling! Yes, the picture captures a value but what about the human aspect. Most of you seem to be sipping a martini and enjoying the tragedy before your eyes. Sad really sad Mish, you call yourself an editor? Umm I can’t say what I would like to here.
This photo is quite similar to homeless people here in the Philippines. They are commonly called "Taong Grasa", in English. "Grease man"... visit my blog... thanks...
Thank goodness at least a few of the commenters on here looked at this picture with some compassion, rather than photographer's emotional detachment or mockery. Those of you who think it's ok to laugh because it couldn't happen to you, maybe you're wealthy enough that it never will. But a few of you may be surprised to find that it CAN happen to you though you never expected it. Just because you may be lucky enough that it won't happen to you, doesn't it make it alright for you to laugh about it.
Seriously Mish, is that all you see when you look at this picture? Nevermind he's lying on the frezing cold pavement trying to stay warm from the steam rising up from the sewage below. For all of you who saw the same picture i did, its good to know some of us still have a heart. Be grateful for what you have. Some words to live by; Your situation could always be worse.
Sweetlil..... This is called a PHOTO blog, not a human emotion blog. Lunchbox, I partially agree. I think that the majority in our country is elective, for lack of a better term. Maybe avoidable? Tony, Our government has taken great strides to provide programs for these individuals.
Oh my God...A beautifully haunting picture.
MTfromLA: I agree, but what's your point?
I had a peculiar experience which almost put me in the poorhouse. I had been studying and working hard. I was putting in 20 hours a week overtime. The company did the natural thing. They promoted me, which changed my status from hourly to salaried. I lost my overtime. I lost 15k a year in overtime pay. I had to get a part time job. I lost my apartment and had to move into a pay-by-the-week motel. I was hard up for a long time. It took me five years to recover from that promotion.
Yea, these people are detached from what is going on in this world and in their world they are better off without us...so who is to say we are happier. The person sleeping or resting is the one sleeping through the hustle and bustle. This picture is sad but exemplifies how our perception of another persons situation or state of mind can have a profound effect on us. Maybe he is happier than I'll ever be...Interesting, although it makes me feel sad and disappointed with humanity and myself. I am guilty of feeling sorry for this person, yet I am doing nothing about it. I feel like I don't really think I would make a diffence, and yet I may be using this as an excuse not to help out...probably the latter. I am a peice of garbage for not doing more for humanity.
Mish, what a sad person you are ... and so detached from reality.
My point is, we do what we can. We have become a nation of policies, programs and funds to support every little niche, ailment, adversity or obstacle in existance. While there are those who can't do for themselves, there are plenty that can, but won't. Maybe we should focus more funding towards the homeless, and less on programs and healthcare for illegals...
Ed..Been there and done that..Twenty five years ago when I first started out in the Tire and battery business I was young,single,had money,and an ego to match!After I opened a second retail/wholesale/warehouse location-A tornado came thru and destroyed the building.I didn"t have insurance.Within months I was going broke,My fiancee ran off with another man,I was getting audited by the state, creditors hounded me 24/7,an employee was arrested with 13 pounds of marijuana in one of my delivery trucks!!I fell off a bar stool and broke my right ankle.I went into deep depression couldn"t eat or sleep,Then I started to wonder if it was time to end my life.Then I realized were all put on this earth with a purpose,one that is to be decided by "THE BIG GUY" upstairs and no one else.Suddenly my life did a 360; business took off,I met the love of my life- my wife,I feel my life has been a blessing!When I look at the poor guy lying on the ground..it makes me wonder..could this have been me? -Take Care Buddy-
There are no government programs to give healthcare to illegals. That is just another Republican fear tactic. The discussion you stepped into was not about how much the government does for the homeless in this country, it was about whether or not homelessness is "elective". I honestly believe the government should get out of the way regarding the homeless. Religious and non-profit groups do much better work in this area.
Robert: You are way too hard on yourself. One thing that you probably do for humanity is to ensure that you and your family stay off the streets. You underestimate the contribution of taking care of yourself and your own. Make sure your children are healthy and educated and productive. That lesson will, hopefully, spread to their families and the web will stretch through humanity. You don't have to open a homeless shelter to make a huge impact.
While I can appreciate the artistic value of what the photographer has captured here. The fact this remains, and should be exceedingly evident, that the theme is significantly overshadowed by human suffering. It is inconceivable that one would choose such circumstances and, as such, we as fellow human beings should look upon this with sympathy and apathy, rather than humor or even thoughtful distance. I am not criticizing those who've made lighthearted comments here, as we must ultimately take everything in stride and life is what it is. However, I am drawn irrefutibly to the fact that there is a human being in this picture who is going without a great deal of which we obviously all have.
I have been homeless, and let me tell you, I could have cared less about the friggin "layered textures" of the park bench I was sleeping on, in the middle of October..
Only here could someone try to change the subject from homeless people in China to illegal immigrants. We got talent here. Anyway, this photo is absolutely beautiful and striking, homeless controversy set aside and all. I think the part I like the most is how the person in the background is going about their business and sweeping as if it doesn't even bother them that there's a homeless person asleep on their path. I know around here, people avoid them like the plague (or like they HAVE it), yet this person is just merrily sweeping away.
Wow. A picture of a homeless man in China somehow gravitates to a 'republicans hate poor people' rant. Get some help dude, it's a sickness, I tell ya.
Tony, there may not be a formal program to provide healthcare to illegals, but they do use the ER's as a doctors office. They can't be refused treatment, and don't always pay the bills for treatment. But good advise to Robert.
NEOSHO: I was laid off from a 6-figure job. After a few months of looking, and emptying the savings, I had to sling 2x4's at a lumber yard for $9/hour. I decided to refocus, and get my teaching certification...so I went to school while working at the lumber yard. We all have 2 choices: Make a change, or make an excuse. I hope everything worked out OK for you.
angelfire: It's that "logical hatred" you're so fond of!
Krista: You know what I like? You and MT and Lunchbox tend to lean right on social issues, while Shelli, Margaret and I tend to lean left. We can all come on here and post our views and respectfully disagree with each others' views and pretty much stay friendly. Isn't that the way it should be? Regarding the ER medical treatment, I agree that this is a huge problem, but it is not just illegal immigrants who do that. Almost 47 million American citizens don't have healthcare. That is the paramount drain on non-payment of medical services. The reason I get all fired up when someone eludes to healthcare for illegals, is because that sounds like a sanctioned government program. And who above all else would ever consider such a thing? Democrats! So a simple statement like that plants a seed in peoples' minds that, "Those damn Liberals are using my tax dollars to give illegal aliens good healthcare." When in fact, that is no where near the case. It's this false reality that Republicans have effectively painted of Democrats and I am going to speak up every time I see it.
In an effort to keep Beijing clean, locals have started sweeping up the homeless. X-large dustpan sales have skyrocketed!
Tony - yes, that is just the way it should be. It's what keeps me here. I don't like labels myself. liberal, conservative, democrat, republican, left, right, up, down, etc. I find that labels pigeon-hole you, not only in the eyes of others, but in your own mind. When that happens, you often lose sight of the big-picture. I consider myself an American wife and mother and pick my battles accordingly. Although you are correct, I do lean to the right. The democrats from my state do want to sanction not only free healthcare, but free education, no taxes, drivers licenses and financial assistance for everyone. Citizen or not. 'You broke our laws to get here, but that's okay, we have all these schleps working hard and paying their taxes, so we can give you a free ride'. Don't get me wrong, the GOP is just as bad. They want us to focus on immigration and our porous borders because it justifies their war on terror, which is really a war about oil. As we don't really care about terrorists in non-OPEC nations. And Dems want us to focus on immigration, not out of some altruistic impulse, but because they want us to forget they voted for the war too. That's just my opinion and I post it respectfully. I do know we can all agree on one thing. SouthernLady is a sweetie.
lunch box--I had my degree BEFORE all of this happened, B.S.Ed.. My youngest was 16 months old when I went back to school. This is an extremely industrialized part of the country with three universities in a relatively small area, spitting out ed. majors by the hundreds. So, the area is pretty much saturated with teachers. My ex demanded a divorce not long after my graduation and by some twist he ended up with our house and custody of all of my children. I didn't want to leave the area because I wanted to be close to my kids and my ailing parents. The divorce and subsequent "loss" of my kids, threw me into a major depression and a trusted friend, whose name was listed as a reference on my resume, told area schools not to hire me because I was crazy (therapy for the depression) which caused me to be black balled by area school systems. My Dad would say "It's gonna be okay Sis-you're just going through a rough patch." Later he would say "It has to get better for you. It couldn't get any worse." Ultimately he said "I don't understand,Sis. I've NEVER seen anyone with luck as bad as yours." I called on three different long time friends the day Daddy died, for support. Two of them denied me and the third ignored me. When I got home that day, having felt like I lost my Daddy and three friends before 2:00 in the afternoon, I discovered my boyfriend of two years had moved out while I was at the hospital telling my father goodbye. After several years of this sort of thing happening, I broke. I ended up homeless. I realize there are some who milk the system, I have relatives who do. But sometimes people have legitimate reasons for being in a bad situation like homelessness. Thanks for your good wishes. Things are much, much better now.
Really, Mish? You like the layered textures? I like how you come across as the typical photog that doesn't think about *whom* he's photographing, only about the image. If it helps you go to sleep at night, fine. Someone else will look to this homeless person, right>
I really like this picture. I don't consider the photographer heartless or cold, he was just capturing a part of the everyday life that some people live. I love all the different textures, and the splashes of colors and such. Good photo :).
BTW, much much better includes an income of less that $1000 per month, and the following diagnoses--arthritis in the cervical spine, spondylosis in the thoracic spine, degenerative disc disease in the lumber spine, sciatica on both sides, major depression, severe social anxiety, generalized anxiety and post traumatic shock syndrome. But still, better than it was three years ago.
SAD
sparkymodesto: LOL. bayaga bugs me, too!!!
Homelessness in China is often not elective. As the country developes social inequality increases. Many are forced to migrate from rural areas to more the developed cities, but with a lack of resources can often end up in dire straits. look up "hukou" and it's consequences on rural workers if you are interested.
This is for sparkymodesto and charmed: He who knows not and knows not that he knows not is a fool... avoid him. He who knows and knows not that he knows is asleep... waken him. He who knows not and knows that he knows not wants beating... beat him. But he who knows and knows that he knows is a wise man - know him. ~Proverb bayaga is a very wise woman, you should get to know her! Enuf said!!!
I'm with you CMRenoNv. I bet if we were in that situation - which could be possible for ANY person - we wouldn't be making light of it!
I always wonder if people such as this man have a family, and where the heck their high noses are. How could someone let a FAMILY MEMBER sleep on the streets night in and night out... So so sad
What's it mean when you know someone with a big nose?
Proverty is elective... what an ignorant statement. Lunchbox, do you realize that some of America's poor are the veterans of Viet Nam and now OIF who have fought for your right to say such thoughtless things. They have had experiences that would make anyone break. Yet, when they come home to the country they fought for, they are left to fight a broken Mental Health System, are too mentally ill to do so and end up on the streets. And this is just one example our our elective proverty.
SouthernLady: I am saying nothing about bayaga's intelligence or wisdom. I have read enough of her ostentatious philosophies, theories, & opinions, factual or not, that she shares with us for EVERY picture posted. She just seems to know "everything" about everything, every subject or topic, or knows someones brother who has done it. I can tell she is quite adept by her rather long-winded compositions. I am merely saying that I have seen how she has a tendency to ramble over every picture. I am sure she is a very nice woman. From all of your posts, I can tell that you are too. I just started coming to this blog a couple of times a week, because KevinfromBedford, Ed, & Tonyfromwhereverheisatthemoment make me crack up. They are just having a good time and make some really funny comments that I enjoy. If I need to learn something, I can find a book or website to teach me, I prefer not to be lectured to on each photo.
I cannot say that I feel bad for this person. I don't know his story. True, something horrible could have happened to them and they were forced into poverty, but I don't know that. This person could be a serial killer for all I know and he stays homeless to avoid detection. Who knows!!! To those of who who think it is "appalling" that I feel no sympathy, welcome to the real world were bad things happen. If we felt sorry for everyone who had something bad happen to them, we would do nothing else. Besides, unless you are giving what you make every payday to a homeless shelter, shut you faces! Hypocrites.
See Adam, you were doing fine. Made some valid points. I even thought, "Damn, that would be a perfect novel; A serial killer who remains homeless to avoid detection." And your point that we can't spend all of our time feeling guilty about these people is valid, but then you go and screw everything up with the "shut your faces" which reminds me of Jr. High School by the way, and then you call us hypocrites. Exactly "who" are you defending as a Marine? Every American, or just those you agree with?
SoldiersMom...I agree, for the most part. I still think poverty is elective by inn large, but I also oacknowledge this country does little for it's Veterans. When I'm President, Veterans will receive the social services, and preferential treatment first, then those who actually need help, and those lazy kid-factories are SOL. NEO, I also had my degree before all that happened, but I'm glad you pulled through.
I agree with some of this people. The photographer should be ashamed of herself. It's a disgrace that we have this kind of people laughing about this serious situation instead of helping them. How sad.
Thank you LunchBox. . . When you are president may I be the head of Veterans Affairs? I think a Mom would make the right decisions for our Soldiers. I would assign a June Cleaver to every wounded soldier to take care of his needs and give them the TLC they have earned. And I agree with some poverty being elective, especially the "lazy kid-factories" and a the baggie pants young men who hang out in the streets and live off somebodies elses monthly checks. I do not mean to get all hormonal when I read some of these posts. But with my son in harms way, just can't contol the ole hormones and BANG! Off I go. You can see by my posts where my thoughts are 24/7. All of you regular, kind bloggers, forgive me if I ever get on my soap box and offend you... not my intentions.
SouthernLady: When your dog wins the Presidency, I strongly suggest that he/she makes ProudSoldiersMom the head of Veteran's Affairs with an unlimited budget!
I am not from Texas, but I am one of the G.R.I.T.S.
I'm a GRITS too Proudsolidersmom!
ProudSoldierMom--I thank your son and all our men and women fighting for our country. And I thank you and all military families for your sacrifices.I shall keep you all in my good thoughts.
Okay, so maybe I just might have missed something, but what is GRITS supposed to stand for.
My apologies, Sparky... sincerely!
Absolutely, Tony! Will keep her in mind! You wanna be our Condi??? You'd make a good one! Terry... Girls Raised in the South!
When I saw this picture I said out loud, "Oh, Lord." The intense sadness and loneliness of this person, with his possessions in plastic bags around him, was like a punch in my gut. The seemingly detached person sweeping near him was even sadder. The shaft of sunlight was what made this photo. Without it the steam would have been rendered invisible, as would the man lying on the manhole. The sun illuminates all the important details, yet it ironically shines on a sad and forgotten man.
SouthernLady: Although I would appreciate the stylish hair, I don't think I could pull off the red dress. I would fit better as head of the CIA, like Uncle Mike.
ProudSolidersMom - It's OK! get hormonal!! You have a right to. Your son is fighting for our country. I'll get hormonal with you! :) When your the head of the Department of Veteran's Affairs...can I be your assistant?!!!! I think with two "hormonal" females in that office....WOW!! FYI - My resumee includes this; NOT POLITICALLY CORRECT. :0
Tony, Tony, Tony!!! You know what I meant!!! LMAO! But ya know??? A red dress might look goo... uh, nevermind! (heeheehee)
Smart Guy
I have to say that yes, as an image it's not that bad. But did we really need commentary stating "I really like the feeling of layered textures from this photo. The ground, the steam, the homeless man, the broom, the plastic bags, they all come together to form this complex photo." You liked the feeling?? Yea, I can see having good feelings about an image like this, that is IF I were a heartless, uncaring wench like yourself Miss Whalen. A little empathy for this man's (or woman) plight wouldn't hurt you.
I find it so sad, that countries would rather make war againist other countries, then take care of their own people,[ damn goverment]
I can't believe DarylKirchen's comment got thru!!!! Editors, what were you thinking? Totally unacceptable!!! Daryl, ya want me to get a bar of soap, hon? Truly ugly language! Sorry ppl, that's just my opinion! (I hate that word when used this way!)
Thank you editors, for removing that!
you all act as if this isnt real. as if this is a "depiction" of the real world. Let me remind you IT IS REAL!!! these are peoples lives. have some compassion and a little sensitivity. especially Mish Whalen
Talk about true freedom! No stupid job, no stupid boss, no bills, no nagging wife, no phone, no pool, no pets, I ain't got no cigarettes! Whoa! I almost broke into song there!
Tony, I am simply saying, why sit there and complain about it all the time? Now if you (not you specifically but people in general, since you had trouble with that part from before.) are someone who is doing EVERYTHING in their power to stop poverty then, fine, I will never call you a hypocrite! However, if you are just sitting there complaining about how no one helps while not helping them yourself, why would you complain? So, if this is you, then you are a hypocrite, if not, then common sense would tell you to disregard. Also, Tony, "as a Marine" I will happily defend anyone and everyone who needs defending! I don't care if they are Male, Female, Christians, Muslims, Athiest, Black, White, Latino, Asian, whatever, it doesn't matter, I would defend Cindy Shehan if need be, and happily so, well maybe not happily, but I would never-the-less! I will always defend the freedoms that should be provided to every person. And having you question that without knowing me is not appreciated!
TONY!! I forgot to mention, I did actually get that idea from a book I read, I will get the title of it and post it on here for ya!
I don't think the photo is a good done, but it is sad. On thing that annoys me about choosing best or favorite photos on MSN (and I know it is subjective)is that so often people choose one that may be dramatic but is not the BEST. I am not going to choose one that shows a wife crying as her husband goes to Iraq.It may be a moving photo or a historically important one but not the BEST. I guess I wish I could have folks be more discriminating. It is to the point where I can tell what photo will be chosen or not depending on whether there are any flag wavers or crying parents. I don't mean this in a mean way, just in an artistic one.
Is this an abstract painting? I'll bet the homeless man really likes all of the layers and textures, too. This editor is a bucket full of empathy, a big David Letterman, "Yuch", to her.
