Would you handle a poisonous snake?

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David Payne, brother of the Church of the Lord Jesus' pastor, Harvey Payne, picks up his snake box, which contains two copperheads, from the back of his pick-up before homecoming service at the church in West Virginia, USA, 04 September 2010. The Church of the Lord Jesus is one of America's last 'Signs' churches, a folk religion that encourages worshippers to speak in tongues and to handle serpents. Popular throughout Appalachia in the 1920s, the practice is rooted in a Biblical passage from the Book of Mark.

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Rufus 'Buddy' Jewell holds a timber rattlesnake as he prays during the church's homecoming service.

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Member Justin Fletcher (L) is anointed with oil as member Nancy Kennedy (R) whirls in a trance and speaks in tongues.

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A handwritten sign on the altar of the Church of the Lord Jesus warns members of the consequences of picking up snakes and drinking strychnine.


The only snake I'll get near is a Used Car Salesman.
Average educational level of these folks is the 3rd grade and they are so inbred over the centuries that the IQ level is about 70.
Having lived in West Virginia all my life, I get appalled every time I see this kind of crap. It just furthers the notion that all West Virginian's are ignorant, backward, "hill" people with no education or sense. Let me assure you, nothing could be further from the truth. While people hear may seem to live simply, it is not because we lack in brains. Most of us lead common, ordinary lives. We mainly have common, ordinary, religious organizations. When photos, such as these, turn up, it makes us all seem like a bunch of "hicks".
I think you mean "While people here" not "While people hear," Jethro.
I had the gift of tongues and, believe me, it is not a bunch of spontaneous "garbage" falling from one's mouth... which I trust the above photo is! The handling of serpent? HA! "Serpents", as I know it to be used in Scriptures, does NOT mean "reptiles" as in the photos above.
And the snake is praying, please let this redneck put me the f down.
HAHAHA its hard to believe such ignorance still exists there.
I'm hoping that the snakes and poison will take these people out of the gene pool.
Handling snakes and allowing the lord to protect you from being bit, is a pretty good test of faith. But perhaps these faithful could choose some more modern methods of proving that god is on their side. Some suggestions:
- Juggling vials of nitroglycerine while riding a buckin' bronco - if they don't blow up, Jesus loves ya.
- Jumping into tubs of water with plugged-in appliances - if the circuit breaker works, the lord is with ya.
- Leaping off skyscrapers, and trusting in god to break your fall.
Just because your religion is more "common" or "ordinary", doesn't mean it makes you any less "ignorant" or "backward" with "no education or sense". Your post does nothing but confirm the ideas you are so upset about. Where you write Virginian's you mean Virginians. Where you write hear you mean here. And there are 3 extra commas in your last sentence. Your welcome.
Hey, grammar police...
When you write "Your welcome" you mean "You're welcome."
You're welcome.
GOTCHA!!!
I would handle a poisonous snake. I would not handle a venomous snake. Big difference.
It should be noted that the passage in question from the Gospel According to Saint Mark is of dubious authenticity.
In older Greek manuscripts, the Gospel According to Saint Mark ends abruptly with Chapter 16, verse 8. Some manuscripts added a shorter ending, a verse 9. But the Textus Receptus (which is only a few centuries old) has the longer ending, which reads very much as if written by a different author than the rest of Chapter 16, or the rest of the Gospel According to Saint Mark for that matter. It also starts off by rehashing what was just said in the earlier verses, as if they didn't exist.
Here's the NLT (New Living Translation) of the sixteenth chapter, as older documents show it:
As you can see, that's a pretty abrupt ending: the women were too afraid to tell anyone, end of story?
Here's the shorter ending, also from the NLT:
You won't find that verse in a KJV. It, like many others, includes the longer ending instead, found only in more recent manuscripts:
Now, the problem with discounting the snake-handling and poison-drinking promise passage is that this section also includes what's known as the Great Commission, the commandment from Jesus to preach the Gospel ("Good News") "to everyone, everywhere." Most Christians would rather not
Very true. As you pointed out, the passage in Mark concerning snake handling is not found in the oldest and most reliable Bible manuscripts. It was evidently added long after the book of Mark was written and is therefore not a genuine part of the inspired Bible.
It's important to note that this is not the only location where such a commission is mentioned in the Bible. Jesus also mentions this international preaching work at Mark 13:10, as well as the following verses in Matthew:
(Matthew 24:14) "And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come."
(Matthew 28:19-20) "Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you. And, look! I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things."
I'm an Apostolic Pentecostal, for about 20 years, now. I am fully down with all the "stuff" about the Spirit -- the tongues and the gifts, et. al. I believe the way I do for 2 reasons. First, it is the only belief system (and I've studied most of them) that explains the most scripture _and— human experience of any other. Second, the Holy Spirit itself works with and within you to make sense of the big picture.
The Bible itself shows how to interpret the scripture in Mark 16:18, and that passage is in Acts 28:2-6. Paul didn't go purposefully handling the snake. It was an accident. God used the situation to open the eyes of the people around Paul to let them see that there was more going on there than they first realized. It also opened the door to Paul being able to fulfill another part of the scripture from Mark, that of healing by the laying on of hands.
A friend of mine said that these photos are why anthropology will never be obsolete. My own view is that the truly myopic and ethnocentric responses to these photos here show why anthropology is needed, now as much as ever. The ignorant often condemn loudest that which they do not comprehend.
There is nothing more bizarre about this snake ritual than dunking babies' heads in water at baptism, or cutting the little wee wees off baby boys, or lying to your children that the Easter Bunny came and brought them Nestle candy, or killing a young tree and putting it in your house for a few days, or the whole tooth fairy thing, or spending a night with a dead body the night before a funeral, or carving scary faces into pumpkins on Halloween, or dressing up in funny costumes when going to a football game, or standing in front of a piece of cloth with your hand on your forehead reciting the Pledge of Allegiance (to the piece of cloth), or cutting cake at a wedding, or for that matter, taking the groom to a strip club the night before he's married, or everyone counting down the last few seconds of the New Year while watching the television broadcast from NYC, or blowing out candles stuck in a birthday cake, or telling a performer to break a leg, or breaking a bottle against the hull of a new ship, or having a man dressed in an elaborate costume walk through a crowd sprinkling water on them, or drinking God's blood and body in the Eucharist. I could go on. But the truth is, I do most of these things myself.
Humans: they're always up to something.